Dec. 23, 2024

Jake Chervinsky on regulations from first principles

This is my conversation with Jake Chervinsky, Chief Legal Officer at Variant, and previously the Chief Policy Officer at Blockchain Association and General Counsel at Compound Labs.

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Into the Bytecode

This is my conversation with Jake Chervinsky, Chief Legal Officer at Variant, and previously the Chief Policy Officer at Blockchain Association and General Counsel at Compound Labs.

Timestamps:
- (00:00:00) intro
- (00:01:15) ELI5: how the US government works
- (00:10:44) DOGE and the powers of the executive
- (00:19:27) DUNAs, DAOs, and decentralized governance
- (00:27:55) how the law reacts to new technology
- (00:40:19) sponsor: Splits
- (00:41:02) incentives and philosophies of regulators
- (00:48:10) lobbying and goals for the next administration
- (01:01:58) advice for crypto founders
- (01:13:39) personal motivations
- (01:19:30) outro

Links:
- Jake on X: https://x.com/jchervinsky
- Variant Fund: https://variant.fund/
- DeFi Education Fund: https://www.defieducationfund.org/
- Fairshake PAC: https://www.fairshakepac.com/
- Blockchain Association: https://theblockchainassociation.org/

Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org

Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com

Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

Chapters

00:00 - intro

01:15 - ELI5: branches of US government, laws, and regulations

10:44 - DOGE, powers of the executive, un-elected regulators

19:27 - DUNAs, DAOs, and decentralized governance

27:55 - how the law reacts to new technology

40:19 - sponsor: Splits

41:02 - incentives, motivations, and philosophies of crypto regulators

48:10 - lobbying and how policy goals for the next administration

01:01:58 - advice and legal considerations for crypto founders

01:13:39 - Jake's personal motivations for working in crypto

01:19:30 - outro